Showing posts with label Makran Coastal Highway. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Makran Coastal Highway. Show all posts

Friday, April 10, 2015

Makran Coastal Highway is Safe Even for Families

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Dear Muzamil,



Just read your articles on the road trips that you made on the Makran coastal highway. They are very informative so thank you for that. I also want to experience the journey right till gawadar however, I would like to seek your advice mainly on the security situation; especially if you are from Punjab (Lahore). I have recently, shifted to Karachi and desperately wanted to travel on on MCH however, almost everybody whom he sought the advice, has advised me against the idea. Mainly because I am from Lahore (hence a Punjabi despite being a native Urdu speaker).



I just wanted to seek your advice mainly because you have been there on more than one occasion so can share your first hand experience about security for somebody who has NIC from punjab..does it really matter if you disclose or get disclosed that you are a Punjabi? Do they really check your NIC? Because otherwise I can speak really fluent Urdu (this being my mother language). The rest of the factors like road condition, fuel, food, hotel does not matter as I am an experienced traveller and can manage all that.



You can either write back on we can talk on the phone. my cell is xxxxxxxxxxx. Or else, let me have yours and I will give you a call at a time of your convenience.



Thanks a lot in advance,


HS  

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Dear HS
Thanks for your email and visiting my travel blog.
I understand your concern regarding safety especially from the ethnic angle. This is true that there is not much liking of Punjabis, justified or not, in parts of Baluchistan.
While having a take on Baluchistan's security, this is important to remember that the province is too big for a simple generalization. Makran Coast is nowhere close to Dera Bugti, not only security wise but geographically also as the distance between two towns is 1,300km! The coastal belt is largely isolated from the rest of the province hence making it immune from most of the happenings, and hate feelings. Furthermore, inhabitants are generally peaceful fishermen who have been attached to this profession since centuries and have been doing that quite peacefully.
The only significant outlet from Makran Coast, other than the RCD Highway, is the town of Turbat, which is located North of Pasni. Although there had been security incidents in Turbat in the recent past but I don't consider that a big risk especially if you don't plan to stay, or visit, Pasni. Personally, I have been to Pasni a couple of time, both times with Panjabi friends, and did not find out anything of concern. At one occasion we stayed with Maritime people and they were indeed concerned about the security.
So this might be the only place where you may like to be cautious, but not over-cautious.
Coming to the ethnic thing, and about people suggesting you against traveling, let me share that I was also given these warnings whenever I planned a trip to the Coastal Highway, mostly from people who have never traveled there and neither have a plan to do that!
Believe me, nobody will be really bothered to know if you are a Punjabi, unless you tell them yourself, however, they might be interested in knowing the place you are coming from. Nobody is checking NIC except for the security checks of various government agencies, which is assuring in itself.
Having said all that, I would suggest taking precautions, such as wearing shalwar kameez, planning your stops beforehand, being polite to locals, keeping a low profile, and avoiding political discussions. In fact, I noticed that if you show some sympathy about their plight you get more favorable and friendly response.
So these are my two cents worth, hopefully helpful.
If you need any further assistance, please feel free to write back or contact me at 0300206260. It will be my pleasure to help you.
Have a great trip
Muzzammil


Asked

Hi Muzamil,



Thanks for a very honest, prompt and comprehensive advice. Your words have definitely strengthened my resolve to finally travel on MCH. And I might do it sooner rather than later (may be the coming weekend). I have noted your cell and might bother you for some advice on stops and spots worth visiting etc. Although you have already done enough to wipe any doubts in my mind about this ethnic disturbance in Baluchistan and I might sound like an idiot to keep bragging about the same issue, but it is just that besides my NIC, my car also has Punjab number plates and the word 'Punjab' appears quite prominently on it :). I hope that would not cause an issue, especially when i reach a town like omara or gawadar (a might skip Pasni in my first trip). Or would you advise to use a Karachi number plate car (from rent a car)?.



Thanks again for all your help


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You are most welcome Hasan :-) In fact I am pleased to know that you found my too long response relevant and helpful.
The concern about security is never exaggerated. When I travel I try to manage security rather than ignoring and the first step towards managing is having maximum information about the ground realities.
Imo, Punjab number plates is indeed an issue. I believe there will be absolutely no problem uptil Ormara, as the route is very thinly populated and you will sparingly see human beings let alone observers. Beyond that might not be a big problem either, especially when you are skipping Pasni but Pasni-Gwadar is 'relatively' busy so you may find observers. So it actually leaves roaming around Gwadar a major issue. Yes you will be noticed and though will not be bothered by ordinary people, which I must reiterate are usually friendly and not hostile. However, it might give a legitimate target to miscreants because of their perceptions.
The alternative of renting a car is also having its own risk. Firstly you will be depending on something which you have not used, which is a risk in its own on this route. Please don't ignore this risk. This road might be one of the least inhabited roads in the world with almost non-existent road facilities and absolutely no emergency rescue. However, if you feel that this is the only option, than only rent a car from Karachi-Gwadar operators - you will find their offices along Karachi-Gwadar bus companies. I have observed that Karachi-Quetta bus companies do run corolla services, or partner with them, which should be the case for Gwadar also.
As I mentioned, I will still prefer taking my own car, with some modifications with the number plate; put a sticker where "Punjab" is written and it shall be ok imo. Or do something else to that effect.
Keep in touch.
Muzzammil


Asked
Thanks a lot for the valuable tips Muzammil. Really helpful indeed. As this would be my first time so I think it a better option not to use my Punjab registration car. I might lend from a colleague or relative for a weekend  and go and see who the ground situation is and if all goes well only then I might consider taking my own car. But thank you for taking the time out to explain in detail about your experience and tips. I might call you before setting off to get some more tips.


Feedback

I visited the makran coastal highway till hingol national park and pasni following your advice using the Islamabad number plate car with wify and kids. it was a wonderful experience and found no security issues at all. In fact people were very kind and hospitable. Your tips really helped. So thanks a lot for that advice.


Sunday, January 4, 2015

A Czech Wants to Visit the Makran Coastal Highway

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Dear Muzzammil,

I have read your very interesting and valuable posts on your blog and on LP Thorn Tree. Thanks a lot for posting for all the travel community.

I fly to Karachi next week and my plan is to hire a car and go by Makran Coastal Highway to Gwadar and back (I do not have much time). I thought no special permit is needed for this trip but now I am not sure. Would you please know what is the situation? Do I need any special permit other than visa?

Thanks a lot and if you ever visit Prague, Czech Republic, let me know.

Regards

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Dear D
Thanks for your email and your kind words about my posts. I'm glad that you are visiting Pakistan.
Makran Coastal Highway offers great scenery and untouched beaches. Definitely worth going, Hiring a car is probably the next big way to do it after self driving. So it is a go, imo.
Regarding the permit, I do not know of any such requirement for Gwadar. However, I can understand where you are coming from. Even if there is no requirement still then there is a chance that security forces might bug you on the way and try to stop you as well. They will be more interested in knowing your purpose of visit and 'only for the sake of traveling' might not be a convincing reason for them. However, if there is some 'business' then they might be more understanding.
Unless there is a specific reason for you to go all the way to Gwadar, I may suggest an alternate. One can make a day trip to Buzi Pass and then return back to Karachi by evening. This will be almost half way to Gwadar and most of the enroute wonders could be covered until this place.
And thanks for your kind offer regarding Prague, which is indeed a beautiful place and on my list from some time. Hopefully I will be visiting some time in the near future.
 
Happy travels
Muzzammil

Sunday, August 10, 2014

Gwadar's Current Security Situation

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Salam,

This is S. I live in Lahore and planning to visit Gwadar. Do you think it is safe these days to travel?

Many thanks in advance,

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W'salam Saheem

Imo, Gwadar's security situation is not much different from past.

One can still visit the place with appropriate precautions:
- keep it low profile
- time it well
- be gentle to locals


First major security nuisance is Hub, which can be managed by passing it without a stop.
Afterwards it's pretty smooth till Ormara. This part of the journey is the most beautiful also. You can make a sojourns - at Kund Malir beach, Princess of Hope, and Buzzi Pass - in addition to making a manageable detour of Nani Mandir. If you've a contact in Pakistan Navy then visiting their Ormara base, especially the hammerhead PNS Ahsan, can be a lifetime experience.

From Ormara to Gwadar I usually find it monotonous. Pasni is situated midway of this portion, however, I see little reason to visit the place mostly because of the security situation which arises because of its connectivity with Turbat, a relatively troubled town in Balochistan.

Once you're in Gwadar things will be much simpler than you'd have expected.

The bigger issue imo is the almost absolute lack of road side facilities along the way. You may also already know the need to carry extra fuel with you.

Hope this is helpful. Feel free to email me should you've more questions.

Regards

Muzzammil

Asked

Thank you Muzamil for writing back quickly. Since I will be coming from Lahore (and would only want to travel through coastal highway because your article / beauty of the area inspired to do so). Otherwise I would prefer taking my flight from Lahore to Gwadar.
Could you please further suggest if I should take a little risk and use the coastal highway to enjoy the beauty of the area, or rather take the flight directly from Lahore to Gwadar.

If you think I can easily travel on Costal Highway from Karachi (by first taking a flight from Lahore to Karachi, and then using costal highway), what mode of transport would you recommend.  Since I won't be using my personal car, should I prefer taking a rent a car / jeep etc., or use public transport i.e. coaster / 10 seater etc.

Many thanks,
 
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My pleasure S

I'm also glad that you found my postings inspirational.

You've already picked it right - the crux is Makran Coastal Highway. Personally, I've done that by own car all the time I visited. This is by far the most preferred way for me on this route.

Alternatively, there is a bus service also which can be taken from Karachi.

Hiring a car can also be an option.

Since you don't plan to use your own car, you can take the flight from Gwadar on the way back.
Whichever way you do that, you'll surely having a great time.

Regards

Muzzammil
 
Asked

Thanks a lot Sir. Hiring a car (w.r.t. to expense / money) is not a problem for me. I am very comfortable in hiring a car / jeep (as you have suggested to taste the desert safari on the way), as long as this option is safer.
In case you know anyone (rent a car etc.), I can take more help near to the date of my arrival (I am planning to visit during the first week of September).

Best,
 
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My pleasure

There are usually 'car services' besides the coach-walas. I'd trust them more because they run only on that route and more economical. Other rent services might not be that reliable because usually they are experts of normal routes.

And sure, you can contact me once your plan is firm.

Further, I'd suggest looking into PakWheels.com vacation's section (forum).

Thanks

Muzzammil

Asked

Many thanks once again for all the guidance you are providing. I am just wondering, would it be possible for us to Skype at some point for me to clearly tell my visit plans / needs.

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Yaar I've not been using Skype, etc. Still living in stone age, hehe, so email (muzamil79@gmail.com) is by far the best mode to contact me.
 
Asked
 
Thanks ..

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You are most welcome :-)

Tuesday, January 14, 2014

Exploring More of Pakistan

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Salam Muzamil Bhai,

I write this email after reading your Travelogues. I am from Karachi and love to travel. Have seen better part of Pakistan. I never visited Balochistan but after reading your trip to Makran Coastal Highway I decided to just go without worrying about law and order scene. It was fruitful and if I had not came across to your blog I would have never knew what I was missing. 

Currently I am craving to see some mountains so I read your Kalash and Fairy Meadows trip. So here I am writing this to get your consultation about the areas to visit and plan efficiently. Brother I have seen Swa & Naran so I plan to see Gilgit Skardu side. Following your footsteps I have joined CS too. Please reply back and if possible please share your cell number.

Thank you again for writing fabulously.

I will be waiting for your reply.

Thanks.

JAVED
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WS Javed and thanks for your kind words. I am pleased to know that my writings cause you to think about exploring more.

If you have been to Swat and Naran, then the next destination must be the Northern Areas. I have visited NA 3 times now; first explored Hunza and Khunjerab, second time visited Skardu and Deosai, and third time visited Kalash and Fairy Meadows. I also suggest you exploring Hunza first. The best time is summers, i.e. May to September.

In Balochistan, I would suggest exploring Makran Coast. If you have your own car, then going a day trip to Kund Malir and Buzi Pass is possible, if you plan well. Winters, i.e. now, is the best time to explore the Makran belt.

So thanks again, and please feel free to contact me when you have a firm plan. I will be there to add value to that.

Regards

Muzzammil
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