Monday, May 18, 2015

Taking Your Own Car to Kutton, or Not?

TA Asked

Dear Muzzammil,
 
I am planning to visit Kashmir with my family, hence, I am looking for some current information about the situation and road conditions.
 
In this regard, I came across your Blog named Muzzammil's Travels and glad to know your detailed info about the Valleys.

In fact, I once crossed Noori Nar Peak around 16500 ft from Athhmukam to Jalkhad Kaghan Valley and in the mean time I visited Kel cantonment area too in 1988.

It's long time passed so I wanna know the current information of the area.

I am intending to visit Kutton, Kundal Shahi (Jagran Resort) by my Corolla XLI Car in June.
I would like you to please share your experience and guidance.
 
Is it possible to reach Kutton by car?

Thanks

TA
 
Muzzammil Replied

Dear TA

Thanks for your email and visiting my travel blog.

Yes, it is possible to visit Kutton by your own car, and most people do that way. Sometimes, due to rain and landsliding, which can happen anytime, Kutton - Kundal Shahi road gets blocked and takes time to get restored for vehicular traffic. This was what happened with us during our visit last time. To avoid this, one can park their car in Kundal Shahi. Regular taxis (cars) are available easily from Kundal Shahi to Kutton, and even if there is a landslide, one can cross over without much problems, like we did.

You can even reach Kutton, Jagran Resort, by you own car and then send/take the car downhill to Kundal Shahi for parking as there is no need of a car as such when in Kutton. For visiting Jagran Power House one needs a four-wheeler anyways.

Also, when we visited, the resort staff warned in advance about the flood, so people with their own cars had enough time to leave the place.

I believe you are aware of the advanced booking procedure for Jagran Resort.

These are my two cents worth.

Regards

Muzzammil

Friday, April 10, 2015

Makran Coastal Highway is Safe Even for Families

Asked
Dear Muzamil,



Just read your articles on the road trips that you made on the Makran coastal highway. They are very informative so thank you for that. I also want to experience the journey right till gawadar however, I would like to seek your advice mainly on the security situation; especially if you are from Punjab (Lahore). I have recently, shifted to Karachi and desperately wanted to travel on on MCH however, almost everybody whom he sought the advice, has advised me against the idea. Mainly because I am from Lahore (hence a Punjabi despite being a native Urdu speaker).



I just wanted to seek your advice mainly because you have been there on more than one occasion so can share your first hand experience about security for somebody who has NIC from punjab..does it really matter if you disclose or get disclosed that you are a Punjabi? Do they really check your NIC? Because otherwise I can speak really fluent Urdu (this being my mother language). The rest of the factors like road condition, fuel, food, hotel does not matter as I am an experienced traveller and can manage all that.



You can either write back on we can talk on the phone. my cell is xxxxxxxxxxx. Or else, let me have yours and I will give you a call at a time of your convenience.



Thanks a lot in advance,


HS  

Replied


Dear HS
Thanks for your email and visiting my travel blog.
I understand your concern regarding safety especially from the ethnic angle. This is true that there is not much liking of Punjabis, justified or not, in parts of Baluchistan.
While having a take on Baluchistan's security, this is important to remember that the province is too big for a simple generalization. Makran Coast is nowhere close to Dera Bugti, not only security wise but geographically also as the distance between two towns is 1,300km! The coastal belt is largely isolated from the rest of the province hence making it immune from most of the happenings, and hate feelings. Furthermore, inhabitants are generally peaceful fishermen who have been attached to this profession since centuries and have been doing that quite peacefully.
The only significant outlet from Makran Coast, other than the RCD Highway, is the town of Turbat, which is located North of Pasni. Although there had been security incidents in Turbat in the recent past but I don't consider that a big risk especially if you don't plan to stay, or visit, Pasni. Personally, I have been to Pasni a couple of time, both times with Panjabi friends, and did not find out anything of concern. At one occasion we stayed with Maritime people and they were indeed concerned about the security.
So this might be the only place where you may like to be cautious, but not over-cautious.
Coming to the ethnic thing, and about people suggesting you against traveling, let me share that I was also given these warnings whenever I planned a trip to the Coastal Highway, mostly from people who have never traveled there and neither have a plan to do that!
Believe me, nobody will be really bothered to know if you are a Punjabi, unless you tell them yourself, however, they might be interested in knowing the place you are coming from. Nobody is checking NIC except for the security checks of various government agencies, which is assuring in itself.
Having said all that, I would suggest taking precautions, such as wearing shalwar kameez, planning your stops beforehand, being polite to locals, keeping a low profile, and avoiding political discussions. In fact, I noticed that if you show some sympathy about their plight you get more favorable and friendly response.
So these are my two cents worth, hopefully helpful.
If you need any further assistance, please feel free to write back or contact me at 0300206260. It will be my pleasure to help you.
Have a great trip
Muzzammil


Asked

Hi Muzamil,



Thanks for a very honest, prompt and comprehensive advice. Your words have definitely strengthened my resolve to finally travel on MCH. And I might do it sooner rather than later (may be the coming weekend). I have noted your cell and might bother you for some advice on stops and spots worth visiting etc. Although you have already done enough to wipe any doubts in my mind about this ethnic disturbance in Baluchistan and I might sound like an idiot to keep bragging about the same issue, but it is just that besides my NIC, my car also has Punjab number plates and the word 'Punjab' appears quite prominently on it :). I hope that would not cause an issue, especially when i reach a town like omara or gawadar (a might skip Pasni in my first trip). Or would you advise to use a Karachi number plate car (from rent a car)?.



Thanks again for all your help


Replied


You are most welcome Hasan :-) In fact I am pleased to know that you found my too long response relevant and helpful.
The concern about security is never exaggerated. When I travel I try to manage security rather than ignoring and the first step towards managing is having maximum information about the ground realities.
Imo, Punjab number plates is indeed an issue. I believe there will be absolutely no problem uptil Ormara, as the route is very thinly populated and you will sparingly see human beings let alone observers. Beyond that might not be a big problem either, especially when you are skipping Pasni but Pasni-Gwadar is 'relatively' busy so you may find observers. So it actually leaves roaming around Gwadar a major issue. Yes you will be noticed and though will not be bothered by ordinary people, which I must reiterate are usually friendly and not hostile. However, it might give a legitimate target to miscreants because of their perceptions.
The alternative of renting a car is also having its own risk. Firstly you will be depending on something which you have not used, which is a risk in its own on this route. Please don't ignore this risk. This road might be one of the least inhabited roads in the world with almost non-existent road facilities and absolutely no emergency rescue. However, if you feel that this is the only option, than only rent a car from Karachi-Gwadar operators - you will find their offices along Karachi-Gwadar bus companies. I have observed that Karachi-Quetta bus companies do run corolla services, or partner with them, which should be the case for Gwadar also.
As I mentioned, I will still prefer taking my own car, with some modifications with the number plate; put a sticker where "Punjab" is written and it shall be ok imo. Or do something else to that effect.
Keep in touch.
Muzzammil


Asked
Thanks a lot for the valuable tips Muzammil. Really helpful indeed. As this would be my first time so I think it a better option not to use my Punjab registration car. I might lend from a colleague or relative for a weekend  and go and see who the ground situation is and if all goes well only then I might consider taking my own car. But thank you for taking the time out to explain in detail about your experience and tips. I might call you before setting off to get some more tips.


Feedback

I visited the makran coastal highway till hingol national park and pasni following your advice using the Islamabad number plate car with wify and kids. it was a wonderful experience and found no security issues at all. In fact people were very kind and hospitable. Your tips really helped. So thanks a lot for that advice.


Sunday, January 4, 2015

A Czech Wants to Visit the Makran Coastal Highway

Asked

Dear Muzzammil,

I have read your very interesting and valuable posts on your blog and on LP Thorn Tree. Thanks a lot for posting for all the travel community.

I fly to Karachi next week and my plan is to hire a car and go by Makran Coastal Highway to Gwadar and back (I do not have much time). I thought no special permit is needed for this trip but now I am not sure. Would you please know what is the situation? Do I need any special permit other than visa?

Thanks a lot and if you ever visit Prague, Czech Republic, let me know.

Regards

Replied

Dear D
Thanks for your email and your kind words about my posts. I'm glad that you are visiting Pakistan.
Makran Coastal Highway offers great scenery and untouched beaches. Definitely worth going, Hiring a car is probably the next big way to do it after self driving. So it is a go, imo.
Regarding the permit, I do not know of any such requirement for Gwadar. However, I can understand where you are coming from. Even if there is no requirement still then there is a chance that security forces might bug you on the way and try to stop you as well. They will be more interested in knowing your purpose of visit and 'only for the sake of traveling' might not be a convincing reason for them. However, if there is some 'business' then they might be more understanding.
Unless there is a specific reason for you to go all the way to Gwadar, I may suggest an alternate. One can make a day trip to Buzi Pass and then return back to Karachi by evening. This will be almost half way to Gwadar and most of the enroute wonders could be covered until this place.
And thanks for your kind offer regarding Prague, which is indeed a beautiful place and on my list from some time. Hopefully I will be visiting some time in the near future.
 
Happy travels
Muzzammil

Friday, January 2, 2015

Charna Island Boating Trip

Our Catch During Boating Trip at Charna Island
Asked

Assalamoaleikum

Muzammil how are you?

Recently read your blog-post about a boat ride and fishing at CharnaIsland.

Been looking for your advice as some of our office colleagues are also interested in a similar trip on this upcoming Sunday.

As your wrote, the trip is economical only if we get a group of 18-20 people but the problem is that we may be six or seven maximum. Any idea how can we make it more economical?

Your help will be highly appreciated.

Thanks and regards


Replied
Walaikum Salam Os
I am good. Thanks.
Charna Island is indeed a great sea outing around Karachi and this is the perfect weather to undertake that. However, it is a long journey and would only suit to people who can bear the sea sickness.
There is an alternate way of doing this trip which is economical but less comfortable: first reach Mubarak village by car. You can a hire a boat from there, locally called 'hora' for the adventure.
Hope this will be helpful.
Regards
Muzzammil
Asked



Thank you very much Dear Muzamil for your prompt response.

I will try my best Inshallah to arrange a big gathering for this trip or else I am going to follow your advice about the road trip to Mubarak Village.

Will keep you posted about the plan.

Best regards
https://ssl.gstatic.com/ui/v1/icons/mail/images/cleardot.gif